LOL...so, I guess when you said this in a previous post: "I'm surrounded by people who know and believe in that philosophy, people who would rather be stretched and challenged by those around them rather than hold court as know-it-alls, people who realize that smart people working FOR you make you even smarter." what you meant is that you surround yourself with people who agree with you. Don't you believe that we are smarter, more enlightened, more tolerant people when we diversify and get all points of view rather than close ourselves off to alternative perspectives? I'm curious what you think...
For me, McCain-Palin represents an epoch of intolerance, corruption, greed, and dishonesty.
The Republicans want into my telephone, my bedroom, and my uterus. They don't want YOU getting married, and they don't want my daughters to have a Choice.
My tubes are tied, Mary. My phone calls are boring. I have MARRIED, mostly missionary hetero-sex. I am safe in my mortgage, have health insurance, can still afford gas, and don't know anyone in the military. But I still CARE about this stuff. For me, for you, for my kids, for my friends.
Besides, I have a 16-year-old son, and we're fighting a war based on lies. I worry for his future too.
T - thanks for expressing what I feel SO much better than I ever can. I honestly feel that I may just explode I'm so frustrated with our political process.
We are less than 2 months from the election and Palin has still not taken questions from the press and now McCain wants to postpone the debate. It is crazy.
Please see clip of Wanda Sykes on Leno. It made my day.
that's a good question Mary, and for me the answer is that we have just had 8 years of being exposed to McCain/Bush's disastrous viewpoint . . . their America is for well-off white people (sure, like me), and that's the way they want to keep it. People of color, gays, women, poor folks are not included - the rest of the world hates us, and we're the only industrialized country (besides S. Africa) with no nat'l health care. McCain/Palin are demagogues in the truest sense - they appeal to the worst in us . . . I think we're more than well acquainted with their "alternative perspective," lol (not funny)
I appreciate your thinking and passionate response; I too am concerned about our country, worry about our rights and believe that the election is a big deal. My intention was not to start a political debate, however. I simply wanted to know why you would remove someone from your blogroll simply because you suspect she has differing political perspectives from yourself.
That's not really it, Mary. And I welcome debate. For the remainder of this election, I just won't link to a site that has anti-Obama buttons, etc. on it. That's how strongly I endorse him over the Bible-thumping warmongers.
I don't see how we can eat the same shit sandwich for 8 years, and then want 4 more of the same, just because they claim they're using a "better bread". (Speaking of that....the more bread one has, the less shit one's gotta taste.)
Ok, let's repeat this one more time: "The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers," he wrote. "Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." That is from Clinton's favorite Georgetown prof Carroll Quigley, chroniclr for the NWO. So are you ready for the great "change" of Trilateralist controlled Obama? He is handled by Brezinsky, yeah that's new around Washington. Check out: http://www.bravenewbookstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=1287 Webster Tarpley is a big-time leftie exposing the Obama hoax. And no this is of course in no way an endorsement for the NAZI backed neocon Republican Jacobins. Sorry both ponies are totally owned by the Globalist puppet-masters. Step outside of the controlled paradigm-THEY have made the box! And kudos to Mary for a Libertarian link, unfortunately it is apparent that they too have been taken over by the false-flagging, war-mongering, muslim-scapegoating neocons. Folks the hour is VERY late here in the USA, and we've got to see the bigger picture.
Surely you didn't think that I would leave this one alone did you?
We could all sit in our dark rooms, parsing the infinite conspiracy theories, many of which I'm sure are true, but then we wouldn't be able to jog through the neighborhood, or go watch the marching band, or fight with our mates, or buy groceries, or ride the trails. We could start with the moon landing. Or the Masons. Or Area 51. Or 911.
But I choose not to get sucked into a labyrinthine journey to the Island of Futility, where single (or soon-to-be) middle-aged men feed and console each other on message boards and in chat rooms.
So I'm voting on policy. It's what I CAN do and still have a life.
Voting Obama is the answer to futility? That's rich. What policy exactly? Is he going to investigate 911? Rescind the Fed? Remove ALL troops from abroad? Abolish IRS? Overturn the "Patriot" Act? Are you aware of who Brezinsky and the Trilateralists are? Do you want your son drafted into his compulsory "volunteer" brigade of brown-shirts? Why is it ok to patronize those of us that really want to know what's going on? Yeah we all sit here in the dark at the computer, oh and all males. That's an interesting stereotype, I actually know a few women that really know and care about what's going on. The principles of liberty and the ethics therein are the only hopes we have. Pulling out of the controlled system and sending that message is the only move that might have meaning. But if you want to take a Blue Pill and stay within the controlled paradigm don't expect my support. Oh, and I skated about 15 miles last night.
Well, Thomas, we only have two choices in November. Call it the lesser of two evils. Call it saving face with the rest of the world. Say I'd prefer not to be seen as a bunch of ignorant, racist, gun-toting, religious zealots, who leave the sick, poor, and elderly to die. At the very LEAST, Obama is a symbol for hope and change, and if we have to reduce it to that, it's a symbol I can vote for.
Great last answer, Tonya. Certainly I don't see Obama as a magic fix to this huge huge fucking mess we're in on so many levels. I'm not even sure how much he can solve. But sometimes a symbol/semblance of hope is all we have to hang on to. To my ears, the word Republican has become synonymous with arrogance, judgement, control, narrowness and, frankly, just plain meanness.
I want to be open to debating the issues as well, but I find less and less common ground these days. Essentially, I find it difficult to see how a point of view that endorses McCain stems from a caring, open heart. Yes. It's a very, very important election.
I wish there were more people like you who played blog games where you always got to sit on the top of the world with your wand and tap the heads of those who weren't falling in step. Hope and Change can't exist in worlds with selfish people like you who always have to be right and only look out for themselves.
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Hey!!! where's my link on your blogroll??
Can't link to NObama.
LOL...so, I guess when you said this in a previous post: "I'm surrounded by people who know and believe in that philosophy, people who would rather be stretched and challenged by those around them rather than hold court as know-it-alls, people who realize that smart people working FOR you make you even smarter." what you meant is that you surround yourself with people who agree with you. Don't you believe that we are smarter, more enlightened, more tolerant people when we diversify and get all points of view rather than close ourselves off to alternative perspectives? I'm curious what you think...
For me, McCain-Palin represents an epoch of intolerance, corruption, greed, and dishonesty.
The Republicans want into my telephone, my bedroom, and my uterus. They don't want YOU getting married, and they don't want my daughters to have a Choice.
My tubes are tied, Mary. My phone calls are boring. I have MARRIED, mostly missionary hetero-sex. I am safe in my mortgage, have health insurance, can still afford gas, and don't know anyone in the military. But I still CARE about this stuff. For me, for you, for my kids, for my friends.
Besides, I have a 16-year-old son, and we're fighting a war based on lies. I worry for his future too.
This election is a big deal.
T - thanks for expressing what I feel SO much better than I ever can. I honestly feel that I may just explode I'm so frustrated with our political process.
We are less than 2 months from the election and Palin has still not taken questions from the press and now McCain wants to postpone the debate. It is crazy.
Please see clip of Wanda Sykes on Leno. It made my day.
now, let's get back to fay.
sweet baby my A_ _.
that's a good question Mary, and for me the answer is that we have just had 8 years of being exposed to McCain/Bush's disastrous viewpoint . . . their America is for well-off white people (sure, like me), and that's the way they want to keep it. People of color, gays, women, poor folks are not included - the rest of the world hates us, and we're the only industrialized country (besides S. Africa) with no nat'l health care.
McCain/Palin are demagogues in the truest sense - they appeal to the worst in us . . . I think we're more than well acquainted with their "alternative perspective," lol (not funny)
hey, T, did you mean..."MOSTLY MISSIONARY hetero-sex." or ..." MOSTLY missionary HETERO-SEX."?
I appreciate your thinking and passionate response; I too am concerned about our country, worry about our rights and believe that the election is a big deal. My intention was not to start a political debate, however. I simply wanted to know why you would remove someone from your blogroll simply because you suspect she has differing political perspectives from yourself.
That's not really it, Mary. And I welcome debate. For the remainder of this election, I just won't link to a site that has anti-Obama buttons, etc. on it. That's how strongly I endorse him over the Bible-thumping warmongers.
I don't see how we can eat the same shit sandwich for 8 years, and then want 4 more of the same, just because they claim they're using a "better bread". (Speaking of that....the more bread one has, the less shit one's gotta taste.)
Biggy: get outta my head!
oh...yeah....cute pooch...
Ok, let's repeat this one more time:
"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers," he wrote. "Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy."
That is from Clinton's favorite Georgetown prof Carroll Quigley, chroniclr for the NWO. So are you ready for the great "change" of Trilateralist controlled Obama? He is handled by Brezinsky, yeah that's new around Washington. Check out:
http://www.bravenewbookstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=1287
Webster Tarpley is a big-time leftie exposing the Obama hoax. And no this is of course in no way an endorsement for the NAZI backed neocon Republican Jacobins. Sorry both ponies are totally owned by the Globalist puppet-masters. Step outside of the controlled paradigm-THEY have made the box! And kudos to Mary for a Libertarian link, unfortunately it is apparent that they too have been taken over by the false-flagging, war-mongering, muslim-scapegoating neocons. Folks the hour is VERY late here in the USA, and we've got to see the bigger picture.
Surely you didn't think that I would leave this one alone did you?
Nice dog . . .
We could all sit in our dark rooms, parsing the infinite conspiracy theories, many of which I'm sure are true, but then we wouldn't be able to jog through the neighborhood, or go watch the marching band, or fight with our mates, or buy groceries, or ride the trails. We could start with the moon landing. Or the Masons. Or Area 51. Or 911.
But I choose not to get sucked into a labyrinthine journey to the Island of Futility, where single (or soon-to-be) middle-aged men feed and console each other on message boards and in chat rooms.
So I'm voting on policy. It's what I CAN do and still have a life.
No offense, Thomas.
hey greg. yoy wanna talk about fay?
you
mmm, the Island of Futility . . . isn't that in the Psycho-Tropics?
It's in the Bermuda Cryangle.
I'll talk about Fay.... I love Fay!
Voting Obama is the answer to futility? That's rich. What policy exactly? Is he going to investigate 911? Rescind the Fed? Remove ALL troops from abroad? Abolish IRS? Overturn the "Patriot" Act? Are you aware of who Brezinsky and the Trilateralists are? Do you want your son drafted into his compulsory "volunteer" brigade of brown-shirts? Why is it ok to patronize those of us that really want to know what's going on? Yeah we all sit here in the dark at the computer, oh and all males. That's an interesting stereotype, I actually know a few women that really know and care about what's going on. The principles of liberty and the ethics therein are the only hopes we have. Pulling out of the controlled system and sending that message is the only move that might have meaning. But if you want to take a Blue Pill and stay within the controlled paradigm don't expect my support. Oh, and I skated about 15 miles last night.
I really struck a nerve, huh?
Well, Thomas, we only have two choices in November. Call it the lesser of two evils. Call it saving face with the rest of the world. Say I'd prefer not to be seen as a bunch of ignorant, racist, gun-toting, religious zealots, who leave the sick, poor, and elderly to die. At the very LEAST, Obama is a symbol for hope and change, and if we have to reduce it to that, it's a symbol I can vote for.
^Amen to that, Sister T.Ro
Great last answer, Tonya. Certainly I don't see Obama as a magic fix to this huge huge fucking mess we're in on so many levels. I'm not even sure how much he can solve. But sometimes a symbol/semblance of hope is all we have to hang on to. To my ears, the word Republican has become synonymous with arrogance, judgement, control, narrowness and, frankly, just plain meanness.
I want to be open to debating the issues as well, but I find less and less common ground these days. Essentially, I find it difficult to see how a point of view that endorses McCain stems from a caring, open heart.
Yes. It's a very, very important election.
I wish there were more people like you who played blog games where you always got to sit on the top of the world with your wand and tap the heads of those who weren't falling in step. Hope and Change can't exist in worlds with selfish people like you who always have to be right and only look out for themselves.
Thank god it's a free country, and no one's making you read my blog!
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